The Animal Rights Movement
You wrote the essay, “The Animal Rights Movement
is Dead.” Did the movement set out to challenge
the system but instead ended up joining it?
That’s correct. The sad thing about the power of
the dollar is sometimes money corrupts. When animal rights activists first
begin on this path they are altruistic and they want to change the world for
the better. They are the most beautiful people on the planet. Then the
money starts rolling in and a change overcomes them, an addiction to the dollar
you might say. From there on in everything they do is motivated to gain more
dollars. They abandon their original mission and their new mission is to
propagate the system that brings them more dollars. I have seen one group
after another become corrupted by this. They are still wonderful people but
they change their ways, they amend their method
of operation, to raise money and in doing so forget about those animals that
they’re trying to help.
I have a way of judging every animal rights
issue, and that is: Pretend the animals could talk
and pretend the animals can hold their own tribunal and judge those who are
making an effort to help them. I would dare wager some of those animals
would say “No, we do not want your help. You are
the guilty ones.”
And that’s what’s happened. That’s the
transition. Many of the people who started off wanting to help animals are
now helping themselves.
You identify ‘compassionate slaughter’
as the illogical trajectory that can’t possibly initiate the kinds of changes
the animal rights movement seeks for itself. Is that correct?
Absolutely. As a matter
of fact I compare animal slaughter to what happened during the Holocaust.
As a Jewish man I can say this. There were concentration camps such as Treblinka
where string quartets played while Jews marched to the crematoriums. This
supposedly was meant to make their death passage easier. In other words,
what is being done today in the animal slaughter business is making an animal’s
death easier. We are relieving the conscience of those people who eat animals,
but we’re still making it easier for animals to die. This has nothing to
do with animal rights. The largest animal rights organisations are pleased
when they get animal legislation passed, say, to change the size of a chickens
cage, from 64sq in to 72sq inches. That’s not a victory for animals.
What does change is the per capita consumption of chickens which increases
because its making it easier for people to have a good conscience about eating
chicken. The public are thinking that these chickens’ lives are spent ‘humanely’,
further endorsed by animal welfare groups and that’s wrong. That’s what the
Nazi’s did in WW2. The people who worked in human concentration camps were
taken from animal slaughterhouses because Hitler’s Nazi Germany wanted to
make slaughter ‘compassionate.’ They didn’t kick people when they were going
to their deaths because there would have been riots and people wouldn’t die
‘compassionately’. It’s the same with animals. We now make their ramps
well lit, make them so they are not so deadly slanted, make them so the animals
can feel better while they are marching to their deaths. ‘Compassionate’
animal welfare laws is an oxymoron. There’s only one compassion. Don’t eat
them and don’t hurt them.
The Nazi’s actually went to the infamous Chicago
slaughterhouse to learn precise methods on how to process their product…
They not only went to the Chicago slaughterhouses,
they were very well motivated by our automobile industry, especially Henry
Ford. He became one of their heroes as far as assembly-line slaughter goes.
You have a website www.slaughterhousecam.com
Yes. Please have a look at it. Millions of animals
die every day in America per year. It’s impossible to rescue every animal.
Now there’s no more room for animals at animal sanctuaries so what they do
is use their considerable money coming in by way of donations to pass laws
making it easier for animals to die.
I don’t want that to happen. When an animal
dies, we never really see what happens. I want people to see the look
on the animal’s face, the cries from the animal at the time of slaughter.
If they see this, then they’re not going to eat animals any longer.
On www.slaughterhousecam.com there are
photographs of animals in slaughterhouses. One day I’m going to own a slaughterhouse.
I’m going to have 3 cameras and have the place really well lit and people
are going to see live slaughter on the internet. Nobody who owns a slaughterhouse
will let us into their slaughterhouse to take the actual photos so if I own
a slaughterhouse, people will see what death is really like and that's something
we must all see and feel for ourselves. Then we will no longer eat the animals.
Isn’t slaughtering the individual animal for
perceived benefits further down the track the same mentality as a welfarist
who wouldn’t dream of doing the same thing if it was a human life or their
own child?
No
it’s not the same thing. Welfarists say they make it easier for animals
to die. I think that we are all in agreement that one day the entire planet
will see the wisdom of eating a plant-based diet. I don’t know if that will
take 100, 500, or 1000 years. Either way, even meat eaters agree that this
is a given. What I intend to do is accelerate the process. When people see
death, they will reject it. My internet site will create one hundred million
or more vegetarians in America and that will be just the start of it.
On another subject: No matter
how admirable no-kill shelters are they have a severely limited capacity to
house only a very tiny number of animals. Would it not be far better to
concentrate efforts at the root core of the problem and target the breeders? This would secure permanent change for nonhuman animals.
I want people to see what happens to animals in
shelters so people will become more responsible and sensitive to companion
animals. Go to a shelter and see the love these animals have See the wagging
of their tails. All they want is to be loved. Through no fault of their own
many of them should never have been born but this happened by over-breeding
and non-existent laws in operation. It’s up to their human companions to
make sure that these animals are loving companions without the ability to
reproduce themselves so that humans, who are meant to be the responsible ones,
do not just discard them into the woods, as they do with cats who run wild.

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